Cutting Out And Replacing an Inground Swimming Pool Skimmer (Full Video)

okay so the after moth of cutting the

concrete busting it all out my thinking

was to use a circular skill saw with a

masonary blade but that was not gonna

happen wait way too thick would have

taken way too long so I ended up just

doing it with the the gas-powered

concrete saw and that is for sure in the

tool to use so over here there was an

existing expansion joint just like that

PVC expansion joint in the concrete so I

cut from there and then I just cut

another straight line across there but

obviously we had to cut in sections and

bust it out as we went along and then as

I came up close to here I did it by hand

with the angle grinder and also a

diamond-tipped masonry blade cut here to

free it up and then I just cut in

sections slowly slowly and then shows by

hand and you can see that the coping

where the bead lock liner slides enters

intact and not disturbed now to dig the

old skimmer out you can see the

substrate over there was just gravel and

then sand the more sand the closer to

the walls of the pool and of course they

had to run its I'm pretty sure this is

the other return to the jet over there

but the two connections are in the

bottom one is the suction suction side

to the pump

and the other one goes down to the main

drain now the thinking behind this is

you pop in that vacuum plate there and

it's supposed to draw up from the other

one not a very fantastic way of doing it

so what I'm going to try and do is

trench along here and just run main

drain I'm going to connect off of it

pass a pipe underneath I'm going to

connect the main drain to its own

suction line to the pump

really the ideal way to do it now when

you're doing this the most important

thing is to try and get the exact same

skimmer that you're replacing because of

the the holes that are pre-drilled into

the metal walls of the pool otherwise

them you have to start patching and

cutting metal and it's just very

unpleasant if you're doing a concrete

concrete or plaster pool you know

obviously doesn't make a difference

because you have to bust the whole wall

out and replastered anyway so that's not

really an issue

plaster pools but for this week we had

to get the exact same skimmer

this one is a jacuzzi which is now cat

of a in Quebec Canadian Quebec based

company that makes these the model W or

W FL skimmer so we have here you can see

I just hack the way that there get this

guy to loosen up and it's said in there

quite always deeper so get that out and

I get in the new one so that we can get

the liner in and we patch this hole

recon creat it although we could even do

is just put pave blocks on top of here

so if you ever needed to get to it in

the future

and given that most of your main

connections are here you can just take

off the paver blocks and dig up and it

won't be that hard you wanted to start

sawing concrete although if I am to

patch this concrete I'm just gonna have

another expansion to went there so it's

going to look too out of place anyways

we go there's all the material I save

that to put it back in this in here is

like really thick clay which is a pain

in the ass that they go

anyway that's really the only how to how

to remove your skimmer try and put in a

clip of a song out deck there it's not

too interesting let's though it'll show

you what we had to go through to get it

out and transform along here and get the

project as we go along so but before


so slight a bit of progress here and see

where I've busted this guy off so I had

to grind off the bolts that were here

with the angle grinder from the other

side throwing a quick clip of that try

not to damage the metal wall too much

now it's just a matter of digging the

old skimmer out you can see that

however installed this had the fantastic

idea of running the return line right

behind the skimmer well it's almost it's

almost like they said hmm how can we

this up just a little bit just a

little bit so that's what they did

I know maybe they wanted to support the

thing I really don't know and you can

see as you start to get down deep here

it's a little bit of a pain in the ass

you can't really lift the shovel out

anymore so scoop of this kind is really

helpful and of course you want to be

careful not to smash the connections

there you can see it's there's a glued

section and then a threaded section and

they've used black poly pipe similar to

this so keep digging and remove the old

skimmer I've been trying to cut away it

it fit my bit to make it easier to

maneuver around and saving the dirt in

the layers as it comes out so that I

could put it back in so got it all

digged out to the point where you can

see these connections at the bottom here

you can see that that hose clamp are

totally rusted out versus like stainless

ones here that held up pretty well so

this will kind of have to carefully go

out with the angle grinder and these we

may be able to just grease we take off

and then we'll go at it with the heat

gun to warm up this poly packs or

whatever it is like I and we'll be able

to get at all the side nodes you can

kind of see here

we're cracked that's where the split was

was leaking from in one place at least I

think I'm just gonna cut along here

give me more access there you can see

that the backfilling are actually the

ground soil here is filled with this

very thick compacted clay which is very

unpleasant to get out but the sand here

is not so bad

oh just saw the debuff give us some room

to work

easier access now for sure be able to

grind off the hose Barb's or would even

know hose clamps without damaging the

pipe hopefully so Plan B let's see I

kind of skimmed along here with the

angle grinder do not want to cut that

it's gonna be a pain please see it just

kind of cracked right off I cut these

pieces into with the ax off

just want to be careful not to get too

much crud into there I just cut it right

down the middle or to free it up so I

can get more room to cut it boosts the

hose clamps over there what a job okay

hold the mouth this guy just simply

unscrewed and we're gonna use that to

gauge the depth of the extension pipe

that we're gonna need to put for the new

skimmer assuming that is exactly to the

same spec as this old one given that

this is about 30 or 40 years old this

one just cracked off see that's how it

was broken and leaking from and that one

I'm just gonna remove that barbed finch

fitting and we're gonna put an angled

one so that I can trench to connect the

line for the main drain right to the

pump so I had to go with these super

super carefully with the angle grinder

as you can see I tried to saw it off

here and she just wasn't having it today

so you can see snapped off there careful

not to Nick the pipe it's got a little

scrape you there but nothing too deep

this is pretty thick holy pipe suction

side anyway so that'll be good with two

more bark hose clamps on it and then

we'll just heat this up with the boat

with the heat gun I'm gonna yank this

broken part of alright so change the

plans the trench this is a brand

new skimmer with the proper working

parts so we're just gonna go and plumb

it right back to the main drain the way

it is not ideal but after a more careful

consideration it's going to be a very

unpleasant task to dig a trench this

deep all the way to the Shack over there

sole bucket I had a digger that'd be a

different story but I think it's gonna

be fine just connecting it to the main

drain because I do have the proper parts

now to give it good suction so

barbed connections to the black polypipe

hose clamps in opposing directions and I

put flux PVC glued right into there like

this and then attached onto here you're

not really supposed to barbed these this

is meant to be glued in but you can with

enough hose clamps so that's what we're

trying to do eliminate as many fittings

as possible and try and have as many

glute connections as possible that's

always the name of the game

brand new connectors not reusing old

you know you never know how brittle

and you something is so another point to

mention is I've coated all the hose

clamps white lithium grease and goopy on

there just to kind of prevent the

process of corrosion as much as possible

and they've all been bolted down in a

way that they're easy to get to because

you know when you're working on

something or repairing something always

consider future service because the odds

are by coming back to work on it you're

going to be you

this whole a slight adjust amende over

here we're gonna have to do barbed on

the stub up pipes which are going to

take the Flex PVC I was going to do a

glue joint down here and then a glue

joint to the skimmer but there is

absolutely no way in hell that that's

gonna be able to be maneuvered and is

you only get one shot with the with the

glue joints so they're gonna have to be

glued and set into the skimmer base and

then fitted on to these barbed fittings

so that's gonna be the way to do it so

we got these on here we're gonna dry set

the skimmer take a lot of measurement

and then see if we can get it stuck on

there so finally got the damn thing in

look at that oh why Oh what isn't it

lovely we did flex glued into the base

of the skimmer well barbed clamps

opposing directions once again this

flexible PVC or spa flex not really

supposed to be well it's not made to be

clamped but you can made to be glued

what they had done on the old one is

that actually then EBS the PVC gluing

with poly pipe the only thing with rigid

piping is your measurements have to be

pretty accurate you only really get one

chance we have the you gasket so the

liner's gonna go on top of that the

other black gasket and then the

faceplate is gonna get screwed in now I

noticed on these newer flavors the holes

dog men Jesus

anyway the holes where the faceplate

goes in is plastic there's no there's no

brass ferrule or brass thread chase

where a machine screw would go in it's

it's irregular like a wood screw that

threads into the plastic

whereas on the older generation the

original jacuzzis they had it was a

brass nut pretty much in the plastic but

the screw would go into so less likely

of stripping that out in this case more

likely of stripping it out so you really

gotta have your thinking cap on when

you're doing this and be careful little

chapeau over here is somewhat adjustable

or when you lay your base your filler

around as I say I'm probably gonna do

pave on top of here some kind of uni

stone paver blocks so let's in case of

fuck-ups it's not going to involve

sawing more concrete so we're just gonna

put two expansion joints the PVC strip

so you don't even have to put them

really and then we're gonna back so this

gravel paver stones and that'll be it

choose something that matches this quite

nicely we're trying connections in here

so glued flex put them s and D suck dick

no skimmer and drain so I didn't

them up barber clamps two opposing

directions now the only way to get these

honors with the heat gun and still man

it was quite a fight

quite a fight well the other portion you

can see here or some of the the smooth

surfacing or this parking has come off

and we see some of the abrasive material

has been exposed here this is actually

pretty sharp and the previous time what

they've done is they just put sand over

this and threw the liner on top the

problem with that is any any little bit

of water it's going to get into here as

you gonna wash that sand away and this

is gonna be poking at the liner because

you have to remember that liners under a

tremendous tremendous amount of pressure

and any any little stone is gonna

puncture right through that the same

thing happening over here see quite a

bit larger patch your rough material so

we're gonna go over it with a sand

concrete mix and smooth that out the

other thing is the drink under here

there was a lip around here because you

see they didn't seat it quite properly

into the cement what I think happen is

the thing floated up when they were

setting it and they that up

so they just put a lip around here so

that the liner can compress around it

you can see kind of like here with jets

are see how its rounded and being where

the life is rounded to the liner can run

it smoothly so we're gonna build that up

with some concrete in there get the rest

of the water out with the ship Vic yeah

next day after the Pachi Pachi dried

used quikrete hand the topic mix you can

see nice and relatively smoothly

probably even hit this with a sander an

angle grinder if you wanted to but makes

a nice concave surface convex surface

for the wider to grab on to or rather

for the line or not to have a severe

angle so that it won't rip and pull did

the same thing over here with a match or

where the what do you call it

yeah Gris it was showing through some

groundwater is still leaking

and again here for that course material

was showing through where the I guess

concrete had come away or I don't know

something happened but anyways it was

too sharp to put a liner on so we

patched it and yes I'm just ready to

drop in a liner so they completed

project final snap was cutting and

laying the stone getting the top of the

skimmer covered to sit flush they say

and it went with putting paver blocks

Eunice stone like that instead of just

reporting the slab for a heater service

in case something up down there

and it's just a matter of lifting with

blocks digging and whatnot instead of

busting and uh sawing and busting

concrete again it

somebody's eating fireworks so yeah

that's this is the end of it it's not

totally perfect there I mean ideally I

would have done was maybe measured this

so that I wouldn't have had to cut a

seam but I did opt to put the scene in

the middle not off to one side because

it would look stupid cracks are filled

with stone dust these year I'm gonna

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